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Merry Xmas to all,

Recently, i am going to submit my AME personal log book to TC for applying my AME M license. I have about 140 tasks signed including the extra stuffs i write in in the books, and I am not too sure that is it enough to get my log book approve for applying my license from TC. If there is any one just did their license application recently, please give me some suggestions.

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Your "extra tasks" count for NOTHING in Transports eyes.
Stick to getting the one's they are looking for, they're the one's you will be given credit for towards your license. It used to be around 80% was the number, but even then, it was totally dependent on the inspector. Bit of a lottery, really.
Recently, i am going to submit my AME personal log book to TC for applying my AME M license. I have about 140 tasks signed including the extra stuffs i write in in the books, and I am not too sure that is it enough to get my log book approve for applying my license from TC. If there is any one just did their license application recently, please give me some suggestions.
Guessing English is a second language for you, so here's an idea on how you might want to write it. Biggest issue was mixing up past tense with present.

Recently, i was going to submit my personal AME log book to TC to apply for my AME M license. I have about 140 tasks signed, including the extra tasks i wrote in the book. I am not too sure that is enough to get my log book approved to apply for my license from TC. If there is any one that just did their license application recently, please give me some suggestions.

Just a suggestion, and don't take it the wrong way. This is better than some born english speaking apprentices I've worked with in the past.
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140 entries. How many entries in each chapter? Example: 7 entries for Chapter 12 (list all chapters with entries - signed off by an AME). Ignore the "extra" items. Only consider the printed tasks in each chapter.

That would be more helpful.
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dashx wrote:140 entries. How many entries in each chapter? Example: 7 entries for Chapter 12 (list all chapters with entries - signed off by an AME). Ignore the "extra" items. Only consider the printed tasks in each chapter.

That would be more helpful.
thanks all for the help,
I don't have my log book with me right now. In my memory, I had approximately 110 signed off in my book, excluding the extra tasks i wrote in.
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As far as I know it is still 70% of applicable tasks for the type of aircraft you are working on. It will also depend on the inspector and what he wants(or how he interprets the regs). I have my M1 and am going to get my M2 rating put on( I have worked on M2 aircraft for the past 4 years) and was told by a friend who is an Inspector with TC (Pacific region) that I just have to submit a letter from QA stating experience and types worked on and any relevant type courses and that would be sufficient. I then went into TC in Winnipeg and was told nope they want 70% of ALL tasks filled out in my logbook. I also hold a foreign license with the equivalent of an M2 rating with Type ratings and CRS authorization on it and was told it doesn't matter. They just want to see my logbook! Two different parts of the country and two different answers. Go figure!!!

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I just have to submit a letter from QA stating experience and types worked on and any relevant type courses and that would be sufficient. I then went into TC in Winnipeg and was told nope they want 70% of ALL tasks filled out in my logbook. I also hold a foreign license with the equivalent of an M2 rating with Type ratings and CRS authorization on it and was told it doesn't matter
I went through almost the exact same scenario as this, years ago, and you will have to show the completed tasks in the logbook.
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rotorhead350 wrote:As far as I know it is still 70% of applicable tasks for the type of aircraft you are working on. It will also depend on the inspector and what he wants(or how he interprets the regs). I have my M1 and am going to get my M2 rating put on( I have worked on M2 aircraft for the past 4 years) and was told by a friend who is an Inspector with TC (Pacific region) that I just have to submit a letter from QA stating experience and types worked on and any relevant type courses and that would be sufficient. I then went into TC in Winnipeg and was told nope they want 70% of ALL tasks filled out in my logbook. I also hold a foreign license with the equivalent of an M2 rating with Type ratings and CRS authorization on it and was told it doesn't matter. They just want to see my logbook! Two different parts of the country and two different answers. Go figure!!!

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what does TC's requirement 70% mean? Does it mean 70% of the chapters in the log book or 70% of the tasks in each individual chapters of the log book? If is 70% of the tasks in each individual chapters of the log book, then how many tasks need to be signed off in order to get 70%? Is it 120 or more than that?
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If is 70% of the tasks in each individual chapters of the log book, then how many tasks need to be signed off in order to get 70%? Is it 120 or more than that?
Are you saying you don't know how to figure out a percentage from a total amount?? :lol:
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chowda wrote:
If is 70% of the tasks in each individual chapters of the log book, then how many tasks need to be signed off in order to get 70%? Is it 120 or more than that?
Are you saying you don't know how to figure out a percentage from a total amount?? :lol:

because what I think the 70% is a magic number. If you count very accurately, you need approx. 300 original printed tasks to be signed. I don't think that's a possible number. You probably need to tear the airplane all apart to achieve that. I don't think there is anyone would like their airplane be totaly disassemabled and put it all together after. So if there is any one knows the average numbers of tasks need to be signed for apply the license, that will be really help.
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Its about 200, remember you can get your troubleshooting when you replace a component. IE: replace bulb, well you probably tried the switch before you replaced the bulb,right? Voila trouble shooting! 2 entries! Go find your favorite AME and go through your book once a week and you'll get your entries.
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dingding wrote:
chowda wrote:
If is 70% of the tasks in each individual chapters of the log book, then how many tasks need to be signed off in order to get 70%? Is it 120 or more than that?
Are you saying you don't know how to figure out a percentage from a total amount?? :lol:

because what I think the 70% is a magic number. If you count very accurately, you need approx. 300 original printed tasks to be signed. I don't think that's a possible number. You probably need to tear the airplane all apart to achieve that. I don't think there is anyone would like their airplane be totaly disassemabled and put it all together after. So if there is any one knows the average numbers of tasks need to be signed for apply the license, that will be really help.
In all honesty, one proper annual inspection on an aircraft will get you most of the tasks required to get your book signed off.
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Hi, I send my logbook for certification last week.
I have 205 entries completed. I'm looking for an
M2 licence on narrow body airliners so I N/A
the chapters about propellers, piston and helicopters.
I also N/A some specific tasks that don't apply to the type
of aircraft that I am currently working on IE replace combustion heater, install floats,
check operation of directional gyro etc. Once I get the results I'll post it.
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I just checked my logbook and I had 232 signed off for my M2 License. That includes all the additional tasks I added myself. Having said that it all depends on the type of aircraft you have been working on, so it's hard to give a definite number of signatures you will require. Let us know how it turned out for you though.
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TC wants to see 70% of each ATA chapter applicable to the aircraft you are working on. So, if ATA chapter 12 has 10 tasks listed, you MUST HAVE 7 completed. That is it, that is all they look at.
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Actually it is 70% of all applicable task in the logbook.
I'm still waiting for the certification of my logbook.
I need some patience!!
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I just checked a co-worker’s log book that was rejected by TC. He had over 75% of the required tasks, but had zero in chapter 51 and 30% in some chapters. I would say that you do have to break it down by chapter.
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Checkout Cars - looks like you need 70% of each chapter

http://www.tc.gc.ca/civilaviation/maint ... rating.htm
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I wasn't sure about the 70% so I called my TC office
and asked. I was told it's 70% of all tasks in the logbook.
Keep in mind it was last summer, but the same person that gave
me the answer is the one certifying my book. I guess I'll know
pretty soon. I still keep writing down any additional tasks in case
I don't have enough.
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I got my M2 licence today. Some chapters were filled at less than
70% but my logbook overall is at 75%.
So you don't need 70% of all ATA chapters.
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It seems some things never change at Transport Canada; in my experience, you will often get a different answer to a question depending on who you talk to there.
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