predictions for hiring in the north this spring?

seniorpumpkin · Post by **seniorpumpkin** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:02 pm

Just checking to see if anyone here expects to see any significant openings in places like Yellowknife, Whitehorse or the like this year. I know the ramp is probably backed up big time, but I'm talking about for guys who have a few years of flying under their belt. Places like Tindi or Arctic Sunwest are looking big enough to have some openings, but I really don't know the scene up there.
Yes I have done searches, and yes I am looking for current info, thank you!

kevinsky18 · Post by **kevinsky18** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:42 pm

Most of the places you mentioned as a rule don't hire high time people. They promote from with in. You want to fly for Air-Tindi or someone similar you start on the ramp and do your 3 years. Then when a pilot quits every one below him moves one rung up the ladder.

When it was really booming there were instances of them hiring pilots off the street because the FOs weren't FOs long enough to build time to take a Captain seat. But with almost no movement this past year or two you can bet the FOs will have more than enough time now and bringing in outsiders to a direct flying position, no matter how much time they have, only serves to upset the delicate balance.

Carrier · Post by **Carrier** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:46 pm

Kevinsky 18, are you saying that all those higher time pilots who have been laid off have no hope of ever becoming employed again? What a crazy industry! Other industries recognise the value of experienced employees and welcome them. That is the basis for the "head hunter" type of recruiting agency. Aviation really is screwed up. How did it happen?

Lost Lake · Post by **Lost Lake** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:32 pm

Yep, it's a srewed up industry. I was happy being a bush pilot for 16 years. Everyone told me to upgrade to ATPL. Got sucked into the 703/704 whoring industry where cps who know you don't have the decency to respond to an email..not even a PFO. Been a co-pilot on turbines for 2 years, but of course no mpic on anything. Now I'm sitting with a fancy license, but of course no bush operator will want an over qualified atpl now. I AM SCREWED!!!

scopiton · Post by **scopiton** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 5:53 pm

but of course no mpic on anything. Now I'm sitting with a fancy license, but of course no bush operator will want an over qualified atpl now. I AM SCREWED!!!

lostlake,
why would a bush op refuse to hire an atpl qualified pilot ?
I don't understand : you still have tons of experience in the bush and an atpl shouldn't erase all your previous experience.
what is the mindset of a bush operator toward atpl'ed pilots from the Ifr world ?
wish you best of luck

Sam300 · Post by **Sam300** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:07 pm

scopiton wrote:
but of course no mpic on anything. Now I'm sitting with a fancy license, but of course no bush operator will want an over qualified atpl now. I AM SCREWED!!!
lostlake,
why would a bush op refuse to hire an atpl qualified pilot ?
I don't understand : you still have tons of experience in the bush and an atpl shouldn't erase all your previous experience.
what is the mindset of a bush operator toward atpl'ed pilots from the Ifr world ?
wish you best of luck

+1 Go back to the bush, might as well be happy.

SkyWolfe · Post by **SkyWolfe** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:17 am

Ive heard good things...

Lost Lake · Post by **Lost Lake** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:07 pm

A lot of operators assume that once you "move on", you are only taking a seasonal job as a "step backward" until you get the call from AC or WJ. Might just have to take a road trip (first one ever) and meet operators face to face and prove to them that I am a dyed in the wool bush rat. I'll make more in 6 months than I make in a year in a 704 operation, and yes have way more fun.

Sam300 · Post by **Sam300** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:20 pm

Lost Lake wrote:I'll make more in 6 months than I make in a year in a 704 operation, and yes have way more fun.

That is why I continue flying where I am while I try to find a winter job to get that multi time.

Rowdy · Post by **Rowdy** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:45 pm

Lost Lake wrote:A lot of operators assume that once you "move on", you are only taking a seasonal job as a "step backward" until you get the call from AC or WJ. Might just have to take a road trip (first one ever) and meet operators face to face and prove to them that I am a dyed in the wool bush rat. I'll make more in 6 months than I make in a year in a 704 operation, and yes have way more fun.

Agreed, I'm going to go back and find a spot in a beaver or something

Lost Lake · Post by **Lost Lake** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:53 pm

Hey Rowdy, I thought you were livin the good life

aviator2010 · Post by **aviator2010** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:43 pm

Agreed, I'm going to go back and find a spot in a beaver or something

is that to do with the maldives implostion so there is no movement there?

Lost Lake · Post by **Lost Lake** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:49 am

There is tons of movement in the Maldives, at least at MAT. Mainly captains trying to get out of the shit show. F/o's need not apply. New hiring policy is nationals only.
Oh, and drinkers need not apply either.

Rowdy · Post by **Rowdy** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:34 am

Have they actually cancelled the personal liqour permits now?

Lost Lake · Post by **Lost Lake** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:05 pm

Yep. Next is probably mandatory islam classes and bowing to sri lankins when they enter the room.

av8tor_assrope · Post by **av8tor_assrope** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:16 am

Wow…what a difference a couple years can make! I did a 6 month tour there…liked it so much I did a second and a third. I really had a tough time making the decision to move on to other things. Guess I’m glad I left now, after hearing what's been going on there lately. I honestly had a blast for all 3 rotations.

It’s a shame.

Lost Lake · Post by **Lost Lake** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:12 am

Yep, gone to hell in a handbasket. The only lineups now are pilots waiting to get out!

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:17 am

With that kind of movement the airplane rebuilding industry should get a lot more business.

modi13 · Post by **modi13** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:55 pm

How did a thread about hiring in the North get turned into a discussion of the Maldives? That's almost as far from north as you can get.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:06 pm

How did a thread about hiring in the North get turned into a discussion of the Maldives? That's almost as far from north as you can get.

Maybe because so many Canadian float plane pilots worked in the Maldives?

modi13 · Post by **modi13** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:10 pm

Cat Driver wrote:
How did a thread about hiring in the North get turned into a discussion of the Maldives? That's almost as far from north as you can get.
Maybe because so many Canadian float plane pilots worked in the Maldives?

Evidently cats don't have senses of humour...

Phileas Fogg · Post by **Phileas Fogg** » Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:47 am

How was he to know you were joking?

Lost Lake · Post by **Lost Lake** » Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:49 pm

How did a thread about hiring in the North get turned into a discussion of the Maldives? That's almost as far from north as you can get.

Cuz all I see out my window is snow and it's a lot warmer there!?

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