Anyone know what Pay,schedule and routes are like at Private Air?
Good place to work ??

I am not sure what the current situation is but when I first got my license in 2008, I had a sit down with John and he was extremely friendly and gave me a good outline of the company profile. He's one of the few management pilots that takes the time to answer most of the employment requests he gets. Very Professional.

Is Kelner under PA ?


Their adress is in YQT

Caracrane wrote:Is Kelner under PA ?


Their adress is in YQT

PA is under Kelner.

How much time do they want for FO's?

99% of what Kelner runs is single pilot
The PC-12 is a lovely one person aircraft the only time you see them run otherwise is mostly medical where the contract specifies 2 crew, I'd be very surprised if these gentleman require a FO.

AllClutch wrote:99% of what Kelner runs is single pilot
The PC-12 is a lovely one person aircraft the only time you see them run otherwise is mostly medical where the contract specifies 2 crew, I'd be very surprised if these gentleman require a FO.

Hi AllClutch,
While I agree that the PC-12 is a lovely one-person aircraft, I must correct your statement. Most of our flying is done with two crew, under an approved 2-crew operation. This is reflected throughout our manuals, systems, and our policies in all aspects of our operations.

While we retain the capability to operate our aircraft single-pilot, which is the certification level of the aircraft, our stated and practised preference is with two qualified and trained pilots. At minimum, the PIC requires a PPC and the SIC requires a PCC.

The aircraft mentioned in the recent job posting has a full-time co-pilot assigned to it.

Overall, I would estimate we fly less than 5% of our revenue-generating flights single-pilot - and those are unique circumstances reserved for aircraft owner flights (no external charter).

I hope this helps to clarify our operating position with respect to single pilot.
The PC-12 is also a lovely two-person aircraft...

John

goleafsgo wrote:How much time do they want for FO's?

Good evening,
We are not currently seeking First Officers.
Typically we look for 1,000 hours minimum. We will go lower if a candidate shows exceptional capability in a relevant field/area.

Preference is given to candidates who have some IFR and/or turbine experience, and a working knowledge of charter flying (especially in Canada, USA, Caribbean) is helpful.

We hire from a wide range of backgrounds, not just charter pilots! Pilots who are employed as flight instructors, tow pilots, patrol, etc - looking to make a career change are welcome and encouraged to apply when we are hiring co-pilots.

Johnny wrote:We are not currently seeking First Officers..

When is the most likely time you may be seeking for First Officers?

MagicMilkshake wrote:When is the most likely time you may be seeking for First Officers?

MagicMilkshake,
It is difficult to say when we will next be hiring. It depends on when we have movement within the company.

John

MagicMilkshake wrote:

Johnny wrote:We are not currently seeking First Officers..

When is the most likely time you may be seeking for First Officers?

When the current one leaves or upgrades to captain!

Im sorry the door was wide open

Why the requirement for turbine command time no exceptions? After start they are simpler to operate, admittedly if you make a mistake the cost is far higher. Piston engines require far more care and fore thought before you do things. Pistons also fail a lot more then turbines and any FO time on a turbine should be ok. Is it insurance?

Tanker299 wrote:if you make a mistake the cost is far higher

This is basically what it comes down to.

Insurance requires turbine command experience - whether that is gained (supervised) through our operation during the upgrade process or if we hire externally.
Additionally the aircraft owner wants someone who has turbine command experience.

It is not unusual, in the small business environment, to seek candidates who have very similar previous experience.

Not at all knocking the piston pilots, but we do not operate that type of equipment.

Thanks for the reply.

If you've already spent thousands of hours operating
piston engines (radial, supercharged, turbocharged, geared)
then moving to a turbine is like plumbing.

There's a lot to it, but nothing you can't learn in one day.

Can anyone shed some light on PA?

There are some serious problems in the way Insurance Companies assess risk.
I can think of a string of accidents where I would not have approved coverage
with the combination of pilot, aircraft and environment.

Most accidents are predictable as is the risk of an accident.

Buried deep in those employment interview records, are the key indicators
that are generally ignored or misunderstood.

While CS says that there is nothing that can't be learned in a day about turbines
the reality is that what is learned in a day can be forgotten in a day.

The goal of having PIC Turbine time is that someone else has already suffered the
highest risk time.

PC are to be commended on their duel pilot / single pilot policy.

It's also tragic to see the number of single pilot turbine operations around
the world that do not factor risk versus costs in factoring single v two pilot operation.