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Sunwing help wanted ad

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Call me a cynic but I say this is step one in obtaining an LMO from HRSDC to hire foreign pilots.

http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/eng/workplaceski ... .shtml#aar
NOC B Occupations

You will have conducted the minimum advertising efforts required if you:

Conduct recruitment activities consistent with the practice within the occupation for a minimum of fourteen (14) days (e.g., advertise on recognized Internet job sites, in journals, newsletters or national newspapers or by consulting unions or professional associations); and
Advertise on the national Job Bank (or the equivalent in Newfoundland and Labrador, Saskatchewan, British Columbia or the Northwest Territories) for a minimum of fourteen (14) calendar days during the three (3) months prior to applying for a LMO.
The advertisement must include:

the company operating name;
job duties (for each position, if advertising for more than one vacancy);
wage range (i.e. an accurate range of wages being offered to Canadians and permanent residents). The wage range must always include the prevailing wage for the position – see "wage rate";
the location of work (local area, city, or town); and
the nature of the position (i.e. project based, or permanent position).
The ad runs for exactly 2 weeks, the HRSDC requirement.

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=83935
LOCATIONS: Toronto, ON / Montreal, QC / Calgary, AB / Vancouver, BC
POSTING DATE: September 11, 2012
CLOSING DATE: September 25, 2012


We are looking for Seasonal Contract Pilots to fly on secondment to Sunwing Airlines during the winter months. Successful candidates will be type rated on the B737 NG aircraft and can enter into short or long term renewable contracts.During the course of duty, Pilots are expected to conduct themselves in accordance with company policies and government regulations.

Pilots are responsible for:
- Ensuring that safety is the primary objective by adhering to the Sunwing safety policy and utilizing the appropriate safety reporting program in order to identify and communicate all known hazards and risks to the organization.
- Ensuring continual improvement through the periodic review of documented processes.
- Assisting in flight planning and any other preparations for flight as required by Company policy.
- Conducting flight duties and responsibilities as outlined the Flight Operations Manual Monitoring all aspects of flight and noting any safety concerns to the Company.
- Participating in the execution of cockpit procedures, emergency procedures, checklist procedures and instrument approach procedures in accordance with the procedures and drills in the Aircraft Flight Manual and/or Company approved procedures.
- During ground operations, supervising the loading of the aircraft, fuelling, and the preparation of the load sheet as required.
- Maintaining a current medical.
- Maintaining the ability to work in Canada. Maintaining a current passport.
- Other flight operations related duties as assigned.

Qualifications:
- Must be current and rated B737NG with Transport Canada Licence
- 3000 hours total time
- 500 hours B737-600-700-800-900
- Must have Canadian Airline Transport Pilot Licence and valid Aviation Medical
- Must be a Canadian Citizen or a Permanent Resident of Canada

If you are interested in applying, please forward your resume and cover letter to hr@sunwing.ca with the job title in the subject line. We would like to thank all that apply however only those who meet the qualifications will be contacted.

We welcome diversity in our workplace and encourage applications from all qualified women and men, including persons with disabilities, members of visible minorities, and Aboriginal Canadians.
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It's a wild guess on my part, but the CIC guidelines, version June 2012, that can be read here,

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/ ... 01-eng.pdf state :
If evidence of reciprocity is not presented to the satisfaction of the officer, the work permit may be refused, or the applicant may be notified that an LMO must be obtained for further consideration of a work permit.
Could it be that we have a hero civil servant at CIC and that this is what is playing out with this help wanted ad at Sunwing ? If that is the case, it remains to be seen if we also have a like-minded hero at HRSDC ?
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There's no wage range
btw, I found this video on you tube. According to the comments, there's a misunderstanding from population.
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I received two very valid comments from two different people and they are possibly related (the comments, not the people).

1) The help wanted ad is not on the Sunwing Website
2) The language of the AvCanada ad : "to fly on secondment to Sunwing Airlines"

Possibly, this is not Sunwing per se hiring but that crewing company they wanted to create with B scale salaries and outside the pilot's union.
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They will use every trick possible... you try to counter them one way, they'll think of something else!
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Are there any Sunwing pilots on here? I don't want to 7500 the thread. Could you PM me?
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Jean-luc Sunwing is hiring Canadian pilots just for the winter months. How is that a trick? The pilot group is all for it...except for one small thing. Management is hiring them outside of our union. Our concern not yours. As I've said all along, its cheaper to hire Canadians part time then bring in foriengers. We just want it done under an LOU.

BE20 let r rip.
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So i have 8000 hrs.
3000 as PIC in a CRJ.

But do not have a 737 type. Guess i am not qualified huh?
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sprechen Deutsch ... nein???

sorry, then your 8000hrs is not good enough my friend :roll:
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If a six week course (type rating) was all that stood between every unemployed Canadian and a $6000/month job, we would have 100 per cent employment in this country. Unless of course the employers all applied for to HRSDC for LMOs and imported foreigners to fill every vacancy.
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Actually seafeye we're hiring non-type rated Canadians for the winter contract. I'm not sure what that add is about?
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Whipline, the proof will be in the pudding .. Sun flying is just around the corner and when the numbers come out we'll see if anything has changed.
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I just would like to expand a little on Whipline's comment

"Actually seafeye we're hiring non-type rated Canadians for the winter contract. I'm not sure what that add is about?"

Sunwing Airlines is NOT doing any hiring.... and ... actually cancelled intended hiring into Sunwing Airlines (June/July2012). The new pilots that you are referring too are being hired by a separate "Contracting" Company that was created in-house by Sunwing management. Managements intention is that The "New Hires" are not to be part of the union, not covered by the current/future Sunwing airlines pilot contract and NOT on the current/future seniority list . The union tried in vain to work with management to include the option of seasonal pilots, but management refused to discuss or include the new hires as part of the Sunwing Airlines Pilot Group. In short Management is trying to create a non-unionized workforce to work along side a unionized workforce.

This advertisement is new ....Possibly expanding the contract company and not Sunwing Pilots group or to provide for an LMO for the 100+ foreign pilots/wet leases that are coming.

Coincidentally we are entering contract negotiations .... things that make you go hmmmm
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Maybe look for a "same employer" judgement wrt the union
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Phoenix_Rising wrote: Coincidentally we are entering contract negotiations .... things that make you go hmmmm
From the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regu ... ml#docCont
200 (3) An officer shall not issue a work permit to a foreign national if

(c) the specific work that the foreign national intends to perform is likely to adversely affect the settlement of any labour dispute in progress or the employment of any person involved in the dispute.
Of course Sunwing already thumbs its nose at these regulations, maybe they think they can get away with violating this clause also.
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Phoenix_Rising wrote: In short Management is trying to create a non-unionized workforce to work along side a unionized workforce.
Sounds like KFC/Flair.
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Yup this industry sucks. Wtf did I get myself into...
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In related news, the same department that is doing nothing to protect pilot jobs is now facing lay offs by the Harper government.
http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/news/story/20 ... -cuts.html
I guess no one is safe, even if you're in government. Wish them also a quick recovery along with laid off TS pilots.
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Without reigniting the foreign pilot debate, I'm just wondering if anyone epects any furthing pilot hiring at sunwing for this season? or is that all over with?
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penismightier wrote:Without reigniting the foreign pilot debate, I'm just wondering if anyone epects any furthing pilot hiring at sunwing for this season? or is that all over with?
Well it all depends. Sunwings' extra aircraft for the winter season are due to arrive in Oct, Nov and Dec. They will need many crews for all these aircraft.

If the government paid no heed to all our cries and complaints, the extra aircraft will all be crewed by foreign pilots and there will be no local hiring.

On the other hand, if the people with the authority to make decisions heeded our cries and complaints, Sunwing is about to hire at least 130 Canadian pilots, if not more.

We will soon know. Probably by the end of the month.
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