PPL or CPL Training in a Pressurized aircraft?

[Sun85]

Hi, all! Is it possible to get flight training for PPL and/or CPL in a single-engine or multi-engine pressurized aircraft in Canada? Where? Please and thank you!

[ahramin]

I don't know of any school in Canada currently with a pressurized aircraft. Out of curiosity, why would you want this?

[Colonel Sanders]

I do flight training in both single-engine and multi-engine
pressurized aircraft, but I would agree with ahramin -
what's the big deal? It's just another system. There
is no pilot endorsement in Canada in this respect.

[BibleMonkey]

I don't know of any school in Canada currently with a pressurized aircraft. Out of curiosity, why would you want this?

I understand , I'm the same way........





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....I learn better under pressure too!

[BibleMonkey]

medical reason?.......naw

Stronger more crash resistant shell?

Training in Colorado?



That's not it, but out of curiousity, whats the highest airport in Canada with a FTU?

[Sun85]

I do flight training in both single-engine and multi-engine
pressurized aircraft

Colonel, so there IS a flight school in Canada training for PPL and CPL with pressurized aircraft? Or are you an independent instructor?

[Colonel Sanders]

I do NOT hold that peculiarly Canadian invention,
the FTU OC. Been there, done that. I would rather
have all my teeth removed without the benefit of
anaesthesia - less painful.

I give flight instruction on the Cessna 421B (pressurized
geared turbocharged piston twin) and the Aero Vodochody
L39 (pressurized single jet). Regardless of what you
might hear from various industry dolts, neither of them
are really very difficult to fly. It's just a matter of learning
the systems, and the normal procedures, and the emergency
procedures. It like mowing a lawn. Start at one end, work
your way through it, and after a little while you are done.

In case English (er, Canadian? American?) is not your first
language: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dolt


Edit -- the tricky thing about learning to fly certain aircraft
is that some particular tasks are somewhat technique-intensive
and some people find them difficult at first.

There is nothing particularly difficult about flying a 421. It is
a Cessna, after all. You might get a little busy on departure
and arrival - but each individual task is really not that difficult.

About the only difficult (?) task flying the L39 is speed control
on final. People like to saw away at the throttle, and that's
not good. Ask the guy that landed short of the runway at
Hamilton in a T-33 around that.

Some people find landing a tailwheel aircraft difficult, but
they just need a bit more practice, especially if it has a
faster touchdown speed. What really makes it interesting
is if the taildragger is blind forward in the landing attitude.
This really bothers some people.

Probably the hardest thing I've ever done in an aircraft
is negative G formation aerobatics close to the ground.
It's about 100x as difficult as anything else I've listed here.

[Sun85]

Thank you, Colonel! Are you aware of any Canadian (or American) FTUs offering flight training in pressurized aircraft?

[Beefitarian]

Step 1 Purchase pressurized aircraft.
Step 2 Hire freelance instructor.

[Colonel Sanders]

Google "King Air Training" or "PC-12 Training" or "TBM-700 Training".

One of those ought to do it.

I might add that your request is somewhat unusual. It would
help a bit if you filled us in, on what your objective is.

[Shiny Side Up]

If I remember rightly, you can get training in the Malibu in a few places Stateside, which would be the only piston single possibility. I've done training for people in the Cessna P210. Trying to pressurize a box was one of Cessna's worst ideas. I should say the P210 was a good excersise in managing stuff - you couldn't run everything at once. Disadvantage of loading too much stuff on one engine, plane probably should have had two alternators, or at least a beefier one. In retrospect, the plane was a good learning tool for stepping up.

edit: Not many P210s at schools though, if any. High operations costs, relatively.

[mike123]

Cargair in Montreal area offers training on a King Air B100.

http://www.cargair.com/en/beechcraft-king-air

[Sun85]

Cargair in Montreal area offers training on a King Air B100.

http://www.cargair.com/en/beechcraft-king-air

Dual Flight Training on the King Air 5 hrs 5 500 $

$1100 per hour!!! PLUS TAX!!!!!

And, besides, it's type rating for CPL holders, isn't it? Do you know of PPL or CPL training in a pressurized aircraft, and not at $1100 per hour, please

[esp803]

This has been quite a challenge trying to figure this out. I want to reduce the cost of time building, and manage not to violate any regulations in the process

If this is the case, as you have posted earlier, why on earth are you looking for training in a pressurized aircraft? Is there logic behind this madness? From what's I've found no one gives .02 about time in a pressurized aircraft. Find the cheapest way to do all your license and get it done as quickly as possible.

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[Dagwood]

Coming soon to a newspaper near you:
"King Air flights to anywhere I'm flying to. Only $110/hr per passenger when you buy 9 tickets. Taxes extra."