5 years, looking to get back into recreation flying????

[Highflyinpilot]

Im looking at getting back into flying after quite some time, more then 5 years.

Im aware of the recurency requirements, but what im wondering is the fact that i have never updated my old licence(blue peice of paper) to the new style, anyone have any idea If its just a matter of getting a medical and sending in some paper work to TC or am i fubar.

Thanks

[Shiny Side Up]

Step 1) Get your medical back.

Step 2) Get a passport quality photo taken, make sure they stamp the back of it.

Step 3) Fill out form here http://www.tc.gc.ca/wwwdocs/Forms/26-07 ... 04_E_X.pdf print out a copy. You will need someone to fill out the portion to verify your photograph.

Note: if you somehow have known no one for two years on the form it lists whom can guarantor your photo.

Note 2: I've been having problems with TC documents and Windows Explorer, so if you have problems with them use another browser. They work in both Chrome and Firefox.

Step 4) Mail the form with your photo to Transport Canada. Which office currently depends on where you're located, West of Onterrible you send stuff to Winterpeg.

Step 5) Wait. It can be up to ninety days to process. If you are concerned but 90 days has not come up, their standard response will be "wait longer".

[Beefitarian]

If you go to the T.C. Office in YYC in person you will not have to pay postage and they can guarantor your photo. I don't remember if She made me show her a passport or drivers license. Kind of annoying because I had went through the trouble of getting my buddy to fill out the form. Can't remember why that didn't work out.

[Highflyinpilot]

Thanks for the replies, seems fairly straightforward.

Its my own negligence, should switched it when they first started phasing these blue paper licences out :-/. oh well.

Thanks again

p.s im in northern ontario!!

[Beefitarian]

They don't know you're not current until they see your logs. They might ask since it took so long to apply but they might not. They will more likely just send the book. I think it's up to you to make sure you have proof of currency if asked. Though I have read it suggested you can tell them to find it in Journey logs. Personally I go with "You can catch more bears with honey."

This is when getting your personal log certified is important. If I was able to fly more and get my license number and personal mark in more aircraft journey log books it would not be as important, since that would provide multiple locations for evidence if mean old TC comes a knocking.

[ogopogo]

I haven't flown for 10 years and also am going to get back into it. Medical this Weds.

I am ignorant about the license thing.....I have my old paper one still (CPL). I Gather there is something new on this?

[Colonel Sanders]

As SSU said above:

- get a medical
- write the PSTAR
- do a flight review and get it signed off in your logbook
- get a passport photo taken
- fill out a licence booklet applcation and send it to your region

http://www.tc.gc.ca/wwwdocs/Forms/26-07 ... 04_E_X.pdf

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/s ... s-2056.htm

[Colonel Sanders]

get my license number and personal mark in more aircraft journey log books

That's probably not as important as you might think.

If you look at CAR 605.94 and the associated Schedule I
you will discover that you don't have to be the (or even a)
pilot to make entries in the aircraft journey log.

At many large flight schools, there is generally a desk
or dispatch worker who tallies up the daily flight sheets
and makes the corresponding entries in the journey logs.
They may or may not be a pilot. They are almost certainly
not the pilot.

After a couple years, the daily flight sheets are gone,
and all you have left in the journey logs are daily totals.

Pop Quiz: when was the last time anyone was charged
with not complying with the "5 year" rule? The "2 year"
rule? The "6 month" rule? The 6/6/6 rule?

Please don't lose sight of the forest for the trees. The
purpose and intent of all these myriad rules is for the
pilot to be competent enough at operating an aircraft
so as to not crash it.

So, don't crash, ok?

[Beefitarian]

That was why I thought it is a good idea to get my log book certified.

Oh my. I was distracted. You need to fly in order to have something written in your log to be certified. You will need a bit if dual ogopogo, how much depends a bit on you but some schools have a specified program.

You will want to study to re-write that PSTAR. Boy did that give me an unexpected hard time.

It's only a fifty question multiple choice test and the 200 possible questions are publicly available. Further it is somewhat basic things I should know. Like what the light signals from a control tower mean. Finally I am sure it was easy first time I did it as a student. then again that was back when I used to have a functional memory. (Before I got married and had children.)

From the ground up is a great book to reread and The Flight Training Manual would be good too.

There's also some online places to study for the PSTAR directly.
Many people like Robin's PSTAR study guide thing
http://www.flyingstart.ca/FlightTrainin ... RIndex.htm
But I like this one better.
http://www.principalair.ca/pstar_table_of_contents.htm

[ogopogo]

As SSU said above:

- get a medical
- write the PSTAR
- do a flight review and get it signed off in your logbook
- get a passport photo taken
- fill out a licence booklet applcation and send it to your region

http://www.tc.gc.ca/wwwdocs/Forms/26-07 ... 04_E_X.pdf

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/s ... s-2056.htm

Thanks folks.....filling out the forms for the Booklet, but stuck on the first box....... What is "Pilot File 5802 No" ?? Is this my licence number??

[Colonel Sanders]

get my log book certified

Do it. There is absolutely no legislative basis or
requirement for it whatsoever, but do it anyways.

Also, for any unusual/special flights, be sure and
take a selfie picture with your cellphone, of you
and your faithful aircraft (showing the registration)
landed at the particular location (eg COMM 300nm x/c)
so no wanker paper-pusher can sniff and claim
"insufficient documentation".

Is this my licence number??

File number is the six digits following the PA/CA/AA.

[Shiny Side Up]

As SSU said above:

- do a flight review and get it signed off in your logbook

Actually technically you don't need to do that if you just want to have a new booklet but not fly for whatever reason. Maybe you have a fetish for passport like documents or something. You do need that though if you are interested in meeting recency requirements. I've been told by some that you don't even need to have a license to get a booklet, only a TC file number, in which case you just need to have a medical done. I haven't personally put that to the test though.

Pop Quiz: when was the last time anyone was charged
with not complying with the "5 year" rule? The "2 year"
rule? The "6 month" rule? The 6/6/6 rule?

I've always wondered if this got piled on to any other offenses the pilot might have been charged with post crash. I know one fellow who claims he was almost charged with it, but he managed to deke out the TC guy on the field and go flying. The TC guy caught up with him later and gave him a wag of the finger, but said there wasn't really much he could do at this point, since according to the rules the pilot just made himself self-current. TC hasn't had the manpower to be out there looking for a long time though, so they really should at least send out a new poster to all the aerodromes "Passengers! Know your rights, check your pilot for currency!"

[ogopogo]

As SSU said above:

- get a medical
- write the PSTAR
- do a flight review and get it signed off in your logbook
- get a passport photo taken
- fill out a licence booklet applcation and send it to your region

http://www.tc.gc.ca/wwwdocs/Forms/26-07 ... 04_E_X.pdf

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/s ... s-2056.htm

Thanks folks.....filling out the forms for the Booklet, but stuck on the first box....... What is "Pilot File 5802 No" ?? Is this my licence number??

[Shiny Side Up]

Yes, or the number on your medical if you don't have your license.