I honestly don’t know how anyone with half a brain would vote Carney, the single most important question, do you trust him to undo the damage and reverse damaging policies? Or, Second question, is it more like he will double down the day after he is sworn in! I know, basically the same question worded differently!
What will he do differently? PP is in over is head and has NO PLAN for most things, just throwing tax cuts that clearly have made the US a utopia
Sounds like a good thing then that version of Canada died!
Carbon tax, resources, housing, pipelines, PP has a plan, how many things has Carney stole leading up to and after calling the election. What Carney won’t do is make it easier to mine our resources or get rid of the carbon tax, liberals have had a long enough time to make our lives better and they failed, frankly Pollievre doesn’t need a plan for me, just getting rid of the liberal/NDP decline would be enough for me
The housing plan doomed to fail? Do you think 15% growth year over year forever is possible (or sustainable?)
I never see actually concrete things he will do! Just vibes about how he will "cut red tape" or "fix healthcare" even though those are PROVINCIAL matters.
Facts don’t matter for Trump or his supporters, at all!
So, if Trump says no more dairy tariffs, huge win! Then that’s what the people will see and hear when he walks back the tariffs!
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Less than what? A week ago I saw people and trump saying the tarrifs aren't negotiable! Heck a 2 months ago he said there's nothing we can do (and then set a list of demands) since he wants to bring back jobs!
Now he's done a 180 and is willing to let go of the jobs and negotatie and they still cheer!
Carney doing exactly what PP said he was going to do.. with a solid track record to back it up (including saving Canada from the Great Recession and saving Britain from Brexit) isn’t good enough!
And remember. It’s ok to be Mr Dressup if you’re Conservative.
‘Bob’ wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 2:10 pm
PP will be different. “Trust me”.
Carney doing exactly what PP said he was going to do.. with a solid track record to back it up (including saving Canada from the Great Recession and saving Britain from Brexit) isn’t good enough!
And remember. It’s ok to be Mr Dressup if you’re Conservative.
Save us?
Doesn’t take a high school diploma to print money.
Marx Carney has his business interests sheltered in countries like Bermuda, cause who likes paying taxes right?
Canadian voters have pretty short memories. When they are lined up at the soup kitchens I won’t be shedding any tears. He was Trudumbs economic advisor and look how the past 10 years worked out.
‘Bob’ wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 2:10 pm
PP will be different. “Trust me”.
Carney doing exactly what PP said he was going to do.. with a solid track record to back it up (including saving Canada from the Great Recession and saving Britain from Brexit) isn’t good enough!
And remember. It’s ok to be Mr Dressup if you’re Conservative.
Garb is one thing, it’s nice and convenient to leave out black and brown face photos!
The Carney track record, it comes down to this, he is adopting Conservative initiatives because of the unpopular Liberal policies, can you trust him to not go back on any of it the second he is elected! I don’t trust Carney any more than I would have trusted Trudeau to do what’s right for Canadians. Not what he thinks is right for Canadaians, another four years of Liberal government combined with Trump for four years, Jesus Christ get me off this looney ride!
Inverted2 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 3:31 pm
Marx Carney has his business interests sheltered in countries like Bermuda, cause who likes paying taxes right?
Canadian voters have pretty short memories. When they are lined up at the soup kitchens I won’t be shedding any tears. He was Trudumbs economic advisor and look how the past 10 years worked out.
He was praised by Harper and asked to be his finance minister, but I guess his opinion doesn’t carry much weight for you?
‘Bob’ wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 2:10 pm
PP will be different. “Trust me”.
Carney doing exactly what PP said he was going to do.. with a solid track record to back it up (including saving Canada from the Great Recession and saving Britain from Brexit) isn’t good enough!
And remember. It’s ok to be Mr Dressup if you’re Conservative.
Garb is one thing, it’s nice and convenient to leave out black and brown face photos!
The Carney track record, it comes down to this, he is adopting Conservative initiatives because of the unpopular Liberal policies, can you trust him to not go back on any of it the second he is elected! I don’t trust Carney any more than I would have trusted Trudeau to do what’s right for Canadians. Not what he thinks is right for Canadaians, another four years of Liberal government combined with Trump for four years, Jesus Christ get me off this looney ride!
Pierre has flip flopped so much people have lost track! Trudeaus government had a lot of flaws but they handled trump better than most.
Is it possible Carney is a plant to increase the chance of American's annexing Canada? Everything he does seems specifically designed to attack Trump's supporters. Now he's attacking American gun laws and online platforms.
Inverted2 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 3:31 pm
Marx Carney has his business interests sheltered in countries like Bermuda, cause who likes paying taxes right?
Canadian voters have pretty short memories. When they are lined up at the soup kitchens I won’t be shedding any tears. He was Trudumbs economic advisor and look how the past 10 years worked out.
He was praised by Harper and asked to be his finance minister, but I guess his opinion doesn’t carry much weight for you? No weight at all. Carney is buddies with Klaus and the WEF and he was buddies with Jeffery Epstein
‘Bob’ wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 2:10 pm
PP will be different. “Trust me”.
Carney doing exactly what PP said he was going to do.. with a solid track record to back it up (including saving Canada from the Great Recession and saving Britain from Brexit) isn’t good enough!
And remember. It’s ok to be Mr Dressup if you’re Conservative.
Garb is one thing, it’s nice and convenient to leave out black and brown face photos!
The Carney track record, it comes down to this, he is adopting Conservative initiatives because of the unpopular Liberal policies, can you trust him to not go back on any of it the second he is elected! I don’t trust Carney any more than I would have trusted Trudeau to do what’s right for Canadians. Not what he thinks is right for Canadaians, another four years of Liberal government combined with Trump for four years, Jesus Christ get me off this looney ride!
Pierre has flip flopped so much people have lost track! Trudeaus government had a lot of flaws but they handled trump better than most.
Your friend Justin quit as soon as Trump was sworn in. He’d get eaten alive.
pelmet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 09, 2025 4:24 pm
All we have to do is get rid of the dairy board(to the benefit of almost all canadians) and he can claim a wind while we all actually win. Especially is we do free trade within Canada and build a trans-Canada pipeline.
Reality, thru the USMCA negotiations the American producers were granted a big chunk of quota, which is dairy product that can come into Canada tariff free. The tariff applies to that over quota, except, to date they have never shipped enough to fill even half the quota. It's a whole lot of hullabaloo over nothing, and they know it, but, they also know it's an easy way to get an uninformed population whipped up and frothing. It makes for a great sound bite when they say '278% tariff on American dairy', but leave out the part that says 'on stuff over quota, which we have never hit'.
Wow....sounds to me like there is no threat from removing the tariffs on dairy then. After all, the Americans won't be sending in much. Why are those farmers so adamant then about keeping the board. Do they just happen to like restricting how much European cheese we can eat. And if Trump can run around with his dairy victory and the Americans won't even be sending much dairy in, great. Meanwhile, thise laid off this week in southern Ontario can go back to work.
By the way, I went on my first cruise a couple of months ago. I couldn't believe how great the butter was. Super creamy and tasty. I had so many buns during each dinner with that butter. Meanwhile, I put a stick of butter out on the counter the other night for some planned cooking the next day. It was nowhere close to that nice softness the next day. Sure, it wasn't rock hard but not very nice.
Maybe people should search for Buttergate. Canada's hard room temperature butter.
And we have the pleasure of paying more for it.
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Inverted2 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 3:31 pm
Marx Carney has his business interests sheltered in countries like Bermuda, cause who likes paying taxes right?
Canadian voters have pretty short memories. When they are lined up at the soup kitchens I won’t be shedding any tears. He was Trudumbs economic advisor and look how the past 10 years worked out.
He was praised by Harper and asked to be his finance minister, but I guess his opinion doesn’t carry much weight for you? No weight at all. Carney is buddies with Klaus and the WEF and he was buddies with Jeffery Epstein
Garb is one thing, it’s nice and convenient to leave out black and brown face photos!
The Carney track record, it comes down to this, he is adopting Conservative initiatives because of the unpopular Liberal policies, can you trust him to not go back on any of it the second he is elected! I don’t trust Carney any more than I would have trusted Trudeau to do what’s right for Canadians. Not what he thinks is right for Canadaians, another four years of Liberal government combined with Trump for four years, Jesus Christ get me off this looney ride!
Pierre has flip flopped so much people have lost track! Trudeaus government had a lot of flaws but they handled trump better than most.
Your friend Justin quit as soon as Trump was sworn in. He’d get eaten alive.
I very much dislike him, but unless you're actually russian we saw a trump vs Trudeau term already?
He was praised by Harper and asked to be his finance minister, but I guess his opinion doesn’t carry much weight for you? No weight at all. Carney is buddies with Klaus and the WEF and he was buddies with Jeffery Epstein
Pierre has flip flopped so much people have lost track! Trudeaus government had a lot of flaws but they handled trump better than most.
Your friend Justin quit as soon as Trump was sworn in. He’d get eaten alive.
I very much dislike him, but unless you're actually russian we saw a trump vs Trudeau term already?
That was the old Trump. The new Trump a completely different animal. Plus there wasn’t much going on last round. Other than the Plandemic lockdowns and printing money.
We're trading out a WEF stooge for a WEF underboss. Really cutting out the middleman. Maybe Herr Klaus himself will run in 2029 and help us eat ze bugs and live in ze pods.
Trudeau fired our attorney general because she was prosecuting his politically connected friends for crimes they had commited. Crimes that involved drugs, sex trafficking, prostitution, bribery, etc. Serious crimes. Every one of the Liberals who went along with this, who continued to support Justin after this event is complicit in the affair, along with our media who didnt seem to care either.
I think you may be underestimating Carney if you think he isn't going to get a good deal for us. I could be wrong, and I'll happily eat my words if I am.
Carney and Trump have agreed to negotiate a pact between Canada and the US after the April 28 election:
I just cannot understand why anyone would believe Carney is not just simply going back to the Liberal policies that have caused so much damage!
The NDP is apparently being punished for propping them up but it seems the short term memory of voters is blocking out the bad stuff from Liberals, why is that!
If you listen to his speeches, there is plenty of clues as to the plan after the election, he is literally stealing anything and everything that seems to garner support for the Conservatives, however in the words there is always caveats.
Resources superpower, as long as it’s environmental and the indigenous agree, in other words it’s not happening any more or any faster than the past but superpower sounds great!
I think it's not that people believe Carney will be much different than the previous administration. Its more that a large percentage of the population now sees PP as Canada's version of Trump.
Meanwhile,
All kinds of AvCanada pilots will be voting Liberal because they think it will protect their jobs from the evil Conservatives. After all, they ordered AC workers back to work(oops, so did the liberals) and allowed foreign workers to fly aircraft(oops, so did the liberals).
Well guess what, your high(and likely higher taxes) under more Liberal government is going to pay to help put you out of a job as they now plan a high speed rail line not only from Quebec to Toronto but on to Windsor as well and apparently, their platform says that’ll just be the “start” of high-speed rail plans. Expect to see France-like reductions in flights as well as a special carbon taxes for flying..........If you vote Liberal AGAIN. They hate your career.
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Well guess what, your high(and likely higher taxes) under more Liberal government is going to pay to help put you out of a job as they now plan a high speed rail line not only from Quebec to Toronto but on to Windsor as well and apparently, their platform says that’ll just be the “start” of high-speed rail plans. Expect to see France-like reductions in flights as well as a special carbon taxes for flying..........If you vote Liberal AGAIN. They hate your career.
High speed rail is quite arguably much nicer than commercial flying though. Faster on short and medium distances, less hassle, roomier, and often closer to your final destination as well.
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pelmet wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 11:45 am
Meanwhile,
All kinds of AvCanada pilots will be voting Liberal because they think it will protect their jobs from the evil Conservatives. After all, they ordered AC workers back to work(oops, so did the liberals) and allowed foreign workers to fly aircraft(oops, so did the liberals.
Well guess what, your high(and likely higher taxes) under more Liberal government is going to pay to help put you out of a job as they now plan a high speed rail line not only from Quebec to Toronto but on to Windsor as well and apparently, their platform says that’ll just be the “start” of high-speed rail plans. Expect to see France-like reductions in flights as well as a special carbon taxes for flying..........If you vote Liberal AGAIN. They hate your career.
That’s all you guys have.
Fear.
Fear and verb the noun BS that anyone with a Grade 9 education could easily rationalize and debunk.
HSR across all of Canada? Utopia! One could only dream.
But alas we are a much more massive country than France (which is ironically under a right wing government) so it will never happen. In the Golden Horseshoe and southern Quebec? Who cares? A lot of pilots would be happy to never see YYZ and YUL again. We’ll get over Hamilton, London, and Windsor.. lol.
Meanwhile we continue to see empirical evidence of the destruction of American style conservatism south of the border if you checked the markets at all, today. 2024 didn’t happen in the USA in terms of economic growth. It’s all been wiped out.
Domestic travel bookings to BC are up as we forgo the US. American bookings to Canada are up too as THEY forgo the US.
We need an adult at the table. Not a squabbling child who is just now realizing how far out of his league he is.
Well guess what, your high(and likely higher taxes) under more Liberal government is going to pay to help put you out of a job as they now plan a high speed rail line not only from Quebec to Toronto but on to Windsor as well and apparently, their platform says that’ll just be the “start” of high-speed rail plans. Expect to see France-like reductions in flights as well as a special carbon taxes for flying..........If you vote Liberal AGAIN. They hate your career.
High speed rail is quite arguably much nicer than commercial flying though. Faster on short and medium distances, less hassle, roomier, and often closer to your final destination as well.
Professional pilots don’t give a shit about that, you’re commenting on an aviation forum on a comment directed to pilots, I don’t support the high speed rail or the liberals for that matter.
cdnavater wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 1:34 pm
Professional pilots don’t give a shit about that, you’re commenting on an aviation forum on a comment directed to pilots, I don’t support the high speed rail
That's a bit shortsighted. High speed rail doesn't mean less pilots will be needed. It could very easily result in reduced airline flights and as a consequence increased charter/bizzjet traffic.
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pelmet wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 11:45 am
Meanwhile,
All kinds of AvCanada pilots will be voting Liberal because they think it will protect their jobs from the evil Conservatives. After all, they ordered AC workers back to work(oops, so did the liberals) and allowed foreign workers to fly aircraft(oops, so did the liberals.
Well guess what, your high(and likely higher taxes) under more Liberal government is going to pay to help put you out of a job as they now plan a high speed rail line not only from Quebec to Toronto but on to Windsor as well and apparently, their platform says that’ll just be the “start” of high-speed rail plans. Expect to see France-like reductions in flights as well as a special carbon taxes for flying..........If you vote Liberal AGAIN. They hate your career.
That’s all you guys have.
Fear.
Fear and verb the noun BS that anyone with a Grade 9 education could easily rationalize and debunk.
HSR across all of Canada? Utopia! One could only dream.
But alas we are a much more massive country than France (which is ironically under a right wing government) so it will never happen. In the Golden Horseshoe and southern Quebec? Who cares? A lot of pilots would be happy to never see YYZ and YUL again. We’ll get over Hamilton, London, and Windsor.. lol.
Meanwhile we continue to see empirical evidence of the destruction of American style conservatism south of the border if you checked the markets at all, today. 2024 didn’t happen in the USA in terms of economic growth. It’s all been wiped out.
Domestic travel bookings to BC are up as we forgo the US. American bookings to Canada are up too as THEY forgo the US.
We need an adult at the table. Not a squabbling child who is just now realizing how far out of his league he is.
The so called adult at the table has promised a significant deficit and 100 million population by 2100, not fear, reality!
Factor birth and death rates, to grow to 100 million, if you assume break even on the aforementioned birth death ratio, 800k per year of new comers, if you thought we’ve lost our Canadian culture, import almost a million people a year and see where that gets you! Thank god I won’t be alive for most of that! Just half of it, which is bad enough!
I’d take fucking Trump over this Liberal government, another four years of that and you won’t recognize the country! I may retire early to get the fu ck out!
cdnavater wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 1:34 pm
Professional pilots don’t give a shit about that, you’re commenting on an aviation forum on a comment directed to pilots, I don’t support the high speed rail
That's a bit shortsighted. High speed rail doesn't mean less pilots will be needed. It could very easily result in reduced airline flights and as a consequence increased charter/bizzjet traffic.
Please explain how more people moving by train will amount to an increase in bizjet flights! I’m not seeing it!
cdnavater wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 1:34 pm
Professional pilots don’t give a shit about that, you’re commenting on an aviation forum on a comment directed to pilots, I don’t support the high speed rail
That's a bit shortsighted. High speed rail doesn't mean less pilots will be needed. It could very easily result in reduced airline flights and as a consequence increased charter/bizzjet traffic.
Please explain how more people moving by train will amount to an increase in bizjet flights! I’m not seeing it!
If we assume that building a railroad will result in less airline flights (which is the scenario that you're worried about), then we can realistically assume:
1) There will be less movements at CYYZ
2) This should be opening up more slots for other traffic
3) Tess frequent airline flights between different cities. Time sensitive travellers (business people) might consider looking for alternatives. Private flights or helicopters could be viable alternatives, especially combined with the more readily available slots.
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cdnavater wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 1:43 pm
The so called adult at the table has promised a significant deficit and 100 million population by 2100, not fear, reality!
Factor birth and death rates, to grow to 100 million, if you assume break even on the aforementioned birth death ratio, 800k per year of new comers, if you thought we’ve lost our Canadian culture, import almost a million people a year and see where that gets you! Thank god I won’t be alive for most of that! Just half of it, which is bad enough!
I’d take fucking Trump over this Liberal government, another four years of that and you won’t recognize the country! I may retire early to get the fu ck out!
You better be ready to go soon. The Liberals will impose a massive exit tax to prevent capital from fleeing the country.
