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Your statements illuminate a big part of the problem. Despite each of us knowing exactly what we think ourselves, it is not possible to tell who has got the wrong impression of what the college is intended to be. Just when someone thinks they have a handle on it, the objectives change, the goals are...

It is probably more correct to say that those that oppose the college do not want to be forcibly governed by a small group of crusaders who think that anyone that disagrees with them is either incompetent or management or in some way in need of “re-education”.

Once again, Contrails is a mere obfuscation in this discussion. Those customers that participate in the program are putting money into aviation operations’ and pilots’ accounts, and they are using that leverage to create a standard they feel comfortable with. Whether it is arbitrary or effective is ...

Sorry Doc, but the quotes tell what the problem is: That is the only agenda I have is to see a college in place that would provide some much needed oversight of our industry…. ...not even the "majority" of 703 ops that are "bad". I’d say to be honest its about 65/35 to the good. Who decides whether ...

Contrails in the context of this discussion is a red herring. Contrails is a requirement of a group of customers imposing a standard on those that wish to do business with them. Contrails in no way restricts an operator's ability to do business elsewhere, nor does it say that pilots who do not meet ...

PC, no, I did not try to get involved in the effort and was not kept from doing so. This is because I do not want to be involved in the effort. If people want to organize such a thing, then they should do so, but leave me alone to work under the present rules and regulations. My objection is that th...

Cat, I understand your position, and accept your good intent. But, by the same token, isn't getting that first job even it means working for nothing and paying for training "priceless" to a new CPL pilot? Is not his rationalization just as valid as yours for his particular place in his career? The o...

Fair enough Cat, but I can not see how spending considerable time lending advice and expertise is not work. Call it volunteering or a hobby or whatever, if you take on an obligation in a professional organization to perform a function, it is a value for which you are choosing not to get paid for. Th...

Just to clarify, you and others would want to work for free , to run an organization whose mission statement will contain the goal of improving pilot's terms and conditions, and to have in the by-laws the ability to revoke the licence of someone that buys a job or works for less than the set scale? ...

Motivation aside, funding is still a significant factor: There are 23,000 potential members… The 1/3 figure is the milestone we have arbitrarily chosen… $500 is a lot more than we envision at this point. About eight times more. 23,000 divided by 3, times 500, divided by 8 = an annual budget of $479,...

Tom, from your various posts, the following troubling statements: ... we could end up with a situation where all Professional Pilots in Canada would need to be a member prior to exercising their privileges.... A fully implemented College would have a peer-based disciplinary review board (DRB). If sc...

You can try all you want, but until pilots individually and collectively are willing to be honest with themselves about the present role and status of aviation in today's world economy, it will always be a "try" and not a "do". Commercial aviation has been commoditized, and it is never going back to...

Funding. How would a college pay for its activities? Either it would have to be a significant mandatory levy on all licenced pilots, or the functionaries would have to work for free. The former would require considerable legislation, the establishment of collection mechanisms and requisite audit/pro...

That is very nice of you to offer, but information seems to be something that is done without in the process of leaping to conclusions about a company that does not involve us. Besides, everything anyone ever needed to know is on the internet, right? Carry on, I am happy to know that the same old rh...

Sorry 1201, you've missed the markymarkl completely. These are just obvious questions about apparent inconsistencies. Not every pilot in this country buys these party lines, and not everyone that disagrees is management. No, you are not stupid, just unoriginal.

I'm still confused, but at first you said your impression of the company being on the up and up was mistaken, that your new impression which seems to be a result of being able to read minds, should be taken as correct. And further this is from someone who says they don't work there, but somehow has ...

Please forgive the naivete of an outsider, but EBITDA is down 29.6%, so the company understandably responds by cutting costs in a way that has no effect on the pilots, and the conclusion is that the pilots are being mistreated and a union is called for? I thought pilots always want cuts to happen ev...

Sound familiar?.....

http://www.xtranormal.com/xtraplayr/123 ... line-pilot

But isn't the foundational premise of the College that there is only one "pilot group", a national one, and everyone works under identical T&C? If certain classifications of the larger group can work under different conditions with respect to status pay, what other provisions could they opt out of? ...

I think the bigger question is what if anything can we do about it? Until a "College of Pilots" sets mandatory WACON that applies to the entire industry YES, we will be at the mercy of capitalism. If one tries to reconcile this desire for a "College Of Pilots" (a non-union union that sets mandatory...

It seems a shame that someone is not able to enjoy their life before the age of 60, or 65 for that matter. Is the implication that working at Air Canada makes life unenjoyable? Given the vicissitudes in Air Canada’s fortunes over the decades, it would seem that most of the pilots just happened to be...

Try this: R740.19 Requirements for Time Free From Duty (1) The intent of time free from duty is to provide a flight crew member with a specified period of time during which he or she is free from all company assigned duties. Notwithstanding, some flight crew members may chose to carry a beeper or ce...

"...I get real uneasy when I hear this mantra of " airspeed alive " during the take off roll.......breeding this fear into a new pilot is setting up a scan from outside the airplane to inside the airplane that can lead to the pilot missing some other visual clue that may result in a loss of control ...

My dear Cat, Call it providence, call it luck, call it the hand of God, one is saved from injury or death in every moment that one survives. We have come to an age that is overly dramatic, where we only attribute significance to events that can get us on TV. Our lives are so ordinary and routine, wh...